Dave opened the meeting and welcomed everyone.
Introduced facilitators and working groups. No political affiliations.
Spoke of the four ‘P’s
Acknowledged that the consensus process was frustrating but also important and exciting.
Acknowledged that last week not all the working groups reported back and promoted more efficiency.
Announced Agenda.
Spoke of working group report-backs
Explanation of working groups (open groups that gather to organise movements, proposals to be brought before the GA for approval.)
Anyone can join.
People can start new groups- check whether or not there is already a group for a specific purpose before creating a similar one.
Facilitation Working Group Report-back
Beth Clarification of role
recognition that Saturday GA was rushed and tense
consensus was undermined by shouting rather than adding name to proposal list
facilitation team was also undermined
process aims to ensure everyone is heard
shouting out of turn creates a hostile space like parliament
wants to make people feel comfortable at General Assemblies
calls for no more heckling and more respect for people who have waited for their turn to speak
need for more transparency
OPEN meeting Tuesday, 5pm, Gopals, Swanston St
for anyone wishing to be part of the facilitation team.
Next General Assembly Wednesday, 6pm, State Library.
Assembly member: asks why no General Assembly every day.
Beth: Team needs time to review, confirm, peaceful process
Facilitation team wants the right to be treated well.
Dave: Thanks Beth.
4th ‘P’= Patience
Kids and Carers’ Committee Working Group Report-back
Speaker: Whilst no occupation space, confusion over working group meeting space.
PROPOSAL: Working groups give 24hrs notice for meetings so everyone has a chance to attend.
Working groups continue to be accountable to the General Assembly.
[Sits down]
Meaghan begins to bring up separate issue (??).
Process continues.
Dave: Confirms Meagan’s proposal will be voted on.
Media: Aiming for transparency
invitation to join talk group.
Dave: Calls for vote on 24hr notice before working group meetings
CONSENSUS REACHED: 90%
Dave: Next on the Agenda
-union/outreach
-kitchen
-declaration
-Wednesday General Assembly
-discussion/people’s forum
Community and Union Outreach Report-back
C+UO Speaker 1: QANTAS issue
Assembly: Shame
C+UO Speaker 1: 12000 workers unclear on pay, 6000 flights cancelled.
Australia held to ransom.
Alan Joyce’s 71% wage increase
Assembly: Shame
C+OU Speaker 1: Proposal to support, don’t want to take away workers rights.
Important issue for Occupy Melbourne.
Doesn’t think Occupy Melbourne should continue with this.
QANTAS closing the country down.
Assembly: Shame
C+OU Speaker 2: Logistical support
Corporate Scumbags March @ 3pm Saturday, State Library.
PROPOSAL: continue holding weekly assembly in City Square
Our Square
Regularly at 6pm Wednesday.
Dave: City Square is at Cnr Swanston/Collins
Assembly: Why are we not discussing location? Why are we not discussing now?
C+UO Speaker 2: Clarifies NOT proposing exclusively once a week, IS proposing a regular meeting minimum once a week ( more General Assembly than one per week possible).
Dave: General concern, is City Square viable from legal/police liaison perspective?
Police Liaison: Public property assembly fine without structures- although the TAC structures may cause logistical issues.
Dave: Take it easy (to assembly), need for legal clarifications
C+UO Speaker 2: Clarifies, any day, any location so long as General Assembly at least weekly and in the city. (Centrality important for people who have to travel a long way.)
Public space ensures legality.
Assembly member: Strong opposition to City Square discussion
Dave: Please, don’t shout.
Beth: State Library, Once a week minimum
Dave: Proposal is City Square, Wed, 6pm.
Assembly member (Davey): PROPOSAL to have discussion about tonight’s activities before arranging next meeting.
Beth: Facilitation team currently understaffed to host General Assemblies every day.
Next Wednesday, State Library, 6pm.
Proposal calls for weekly meetings
Assembly member: Asks that discussion over tonight’s activities occurs before General Assembly discussion.
Beth: Need meeting on Tuesday (Gopals) to build on process
Dave: Calls for consensus to finish with agenda before discussing tonight’s activities
consensus not reached
Calls for consensus to discuss tonight’s activities first
consensus not reached
Dave: default position is to continue agenda
Assembly: default position did not receive consensus.
Assembly dissents
Dave: Apologies.
Steps down
Beth: You can join facilitation or any other working group at any stage.
Everyone can join.
This ensures everyone’s votes get heard.
Dave: Suspends meeting to deliberate how to further facilitate assembly.
Assembly to momentarily discuss views in small groups
Dave: No respect for process then proposal to get through working group report- backs and the facilitation team will step aside.
Nick: What working groups are.
Report back to the General Assembly on what they do to help the community and put forward proposals.
These followed by the individual proposals.
Still need to hear from
-Creative Innovation
-Media
-Kitchen
-Logistics
-First Aid
-Direct Action
Direct Action Working Group Report-back
DA Speaker 1: Intense General Assembly
Hold together to take on the 1%
Message of love
Group met before Saturday (assumed there would be a home base)
Community focused music festival for November 5.
Assembly: Heckling, had a home base previous night
DA Speaker 1: Trying to get people involved.
Try to make Occupy Melbourne festive, welcoming and inviting.
Another issue being communication.
Has a Google group and email.
Occupiers should put forward suggestions.
One person to receive emails and keep track of meetings/trainings.
Would like to work more closely with the Community and Union Outreach
Get involved and suggest ideas
Work together, keep in contact
Not always possible to be strategic with police presence.
Volunteers are trying hard, join us.
If you’d like to propose a direct action, let us know.
To get involved there will be a post-meeting gathering.
Meeting this week in a central location.
Creativity and strategy.
Dave: Acknowledge people who did stay overnight.
Assembly: Point of clarification: Approx 70 people stayed overnight at City Square.
Nick: Bowen Lane crowd was in its hundreds.
At the State Library the numbers dwindled.
People moved on by police.
Reiterated that many people stayed.
Media Team Report-back
Media: Herald Sun positive article from Eddie McGuire
Congratulates the General Assembly for Saturday.
Need for transparency and process.
No-one in Media working group has all the passwords
People assigned for Twitter
People assigned for Facebook
Anything posted approved by 3 Media team members
Google group has been set up
opportunity to report the real story
occupy.melbourne.media@gmail.com
security conscious.
Copped verbal attacks all week.
3AW, Herald Sun.
False stories.
Very little sleep
Team members being followed
Phone number on press release
Highly stressful
Amazing job yesterday, won people over
Kitchen Working Group Report-back
K Speaker: We have had no break for two weeks
If anyone has issues with Kitchen moving to Edinburgh Gardens, if anyone has an alternative decision or a plan, offer it to kitchen
Lots of work, please help out
Came to Bowen Lane but RMIT had nowhere to park and nowhere to put water.
Need a detailed plan for parking for large truck, access to water and disposal of water.
Dave: Assembly should not yell out over people
K Speaker: We’re responsible for Occupy Melbourne’s equipment and do not want all this to be confiscated by the police.
Will ferry food to where people need it.
If you want to chop food with sharp knives in front of police, do it yourself.
Reaffirm, will transfer food to where you are
You’re welcome to join the team
Email occupymelbournekitchen@gmail.com
need donations
Dave: There is a working group recruitment list posted
Please raise hand if you want to talk
Don’t just yell
Up to date website for working teams
Media team does their best.
Logistics Working Team Report-back
Jeff: Friday, Spotless depot cleaned out
Possessions taken to tip and compacted
next step for the Legal Team
Generators stored in Trades Hall unaccounted for by anyone who rightly should have been accountable.
Difficult for donors.
May have been collected, most probably gone.
Met at 8 to arrange options (storage)
Low in man power
Blankets and tarps and food to people occupying
Self-assessment, not enough support, under-staffed, under-coordinated.
Sorry.
Meeting this morning to help and hold to account.
Join the logistics team
Sean, new face of logistics…hard job
Figuring out options
Jef announces to step down as it is his last week of Medical school.
Creative Innovation Working Group Report-back
CIW Speaker: Met last Tuesday
Welcome participation
Want to recruit more people
Calls for new forms of protest and commitment to resistance of traditional forms of protest
Want to create spaces for discussion
Proposals yet to come
Dave: refers Assembly to the working group list
First Aid Working Group report-back
FA Speaker 1: sunscreen
water
Heatstroke, panic attack
here to look after you
FA Speaker 2: Limited resources and supplies due to confiscation by police on
Eviction Friday
Building Wish-lists
If you can please prepare yourselves with sunscreen, water and rehydration solution
Asthmatics and those with allergies, please be aware that certain environments are more likely to trigger so please as much as you can, be prepared.
Team encourages decisions that keep people safe and healthy.
We love you.
FA Speaker 3: First Aid is only 3 people in a march of 1500 people.
Whilst we treat people we are static and get left behind.
Need people to watch our backs.
First Aid workers left vulnerable at RMIT packing up triage with large police presence after protesters moved to State Library.
Don’t leave First Aid in unsafe situation where police may give them a hard time.
First Aid 4: We need supplies, volunteers (trained or untrained), need communication and logistic support within First Aid.
Dave: Thanks, First Aid, you’re heroes.
Indigenous Working Group Report-back
Koby: Intro
Brendan Murray is coming on Tuesday for a smoking and healing ceremony
Assess vibe for City Square as location
Respect Elders, past and present.
1pm, City Square (originally for today if it weren’t for communication difficulties)
Everyone welcome.
See the Smoking ceremony and experience the culture.
Bring fresh fruit, seeds and nuts.
Assembly: Always was, always will be, Aboriginal Land
Koby: Suggestion to serve an eviction notice to the TAC tent currently occupying City Square
destroyed our community
RE The Queen: F— mummy dearest.
We don’t need the Queen after all the war crimes they’ve committed.
John: Welcome to my country.
I’m Torres Straight Islander.
Family, Eddie Mabo.
Welcome Occupy Melbourne
Represent 3000 Torres Straight Islanders and 18 islands.
Did not fight and die if not to destroy Terra Nullius
Beautiful black people present at Occupy Melbourne
Fight to destroy colonialism of the world
Stand in support of African people
Unity
Mabo quote “we fight”
Legal Working Team Report-back
Matt: Introduced
Issues with council and police
Urge to get into contact, lost property most likely missing but legal is still looking into this
If you’ve lost property, we would like an itemised list
email: occupymelbourne@gmail.com
Numbers: 0434 126 515 (Anytime)
Arrrested? Lawyers volunteering for us: 0407 410 821. Hotline available 24/7.
Legal training, appreciate observers/volunteers.
Committed.
Many Human Rights Workers and Barristers will see Fridays legal issues through to finality.
Manifesto Working Group Report-back
Beth: To create a document to express ourselves and to emphasise unity.
The ‘Why’ and the ‘What’ of our movement.
Tuesday, 2pm, State Library
Everyone Welcome.
Many other Occupy groups list what they oppose, their grievances.
Occupy Melbourne proposes positive declaration, i.e. we believe, we support
Structure: “Our Vision”, “Our Group”, “Our Process”, “Our Immediate Goals”
Not demands – Occupy Melbourne will take an active role in fulfilling the Manifesto
eg. Indigenous group already initiated the goal of Treaty
Each goal will have an associated working group
Open system – anyone can join a working group
Not empty words, representation of our reality
Everyone invited
Tuesday 2pm State Library
Clarification – ongoing work, nothing official until ratified by the General Assembly.
Dave: As promised, facilitation working group steps down.
Facilitation team will be available on Wednesday, 6pm, at State Library or whichever location the Assembly decides.
Remember open facilitation team meeting on Tuesday at 5pm at Gopals
Nick: Stepping up to help moderate in absence of facilitation team.
For/Against general business items.
Assembly member (Arthur): Against Nick’s act to volunteering
At all times wishes the Chair to only speak to a) the General Assembly or b) the next speaker ( disapproves of conversing with the facilitation team)
Wants new standard meeting process
Feels manipulated by process
Endorses facilitators stepping down.
Assembly should be in charge.
Nominations/Votes for Moderator.
Nick: No consensus on Nick as moderator
Substitute moderator:
Nominees
- Nick (formerly affiliated with the Greens)
- Davey (no affiliations, experienced activist)
- Mitch (affiliated with Resistance, Socialist Alliance, Geelong Climate and others. ‘Here to help.’)
Two counters for votes, not enough support for Mitch, no consensus for either Nick or Davey.
Nick: To end the division, Davey and I will co-moderate.
CONSENSUS
Davey: Settled down. It’s 7.11pm. Meeting to go no later than 8pm.
CONSENSUS
Nick: This is not a typical General Assembly
Issues: location of occupation
take proposals for agenda
Davey: List of agenda items
order, ask assembly approval
Nick: Soap box incorporated in the meeting
Davey: Items
Future proceedings
Support QANTAS employees on agenda
Assembly member, Liam, leaves saying the new process is illegitimate
logistics/support for people tonight
Nick: PROPOSAL: Support the same order on Soap Box list
Forming an Agenda
Issues for people tonight
Make the urgent decisions
facilitation team has left
Davey: issue of majority put on hold
SOAP BOX
Felix: Expresses personal feelings about the movement
sustainable future
freedom
living our destiny in unity
peace/harmony
(please see Felix for his prepared transcript)
2nd Speaker: Occupy Melbourne should transfer accounts from banks to credit unions.
Record how may do this.
Email: profitbanktocooperationbank@gmail.com
Nick: encourage immediate and pressing issues ( other issues are just as well served in conversations)
Tagan: no affiliations
tenacity characterises Occupy Melbourne’s
procedure important, don’t get involved in squabbles.
Assembly member: I want to be heard sooner
Nick: Occupy Melbourne has agreed upon a format and a process
Chris: PROPOSAL: We send a message to condemn Alan Joyce and that we support QANTAS workers demands.
Occupy Melbourne criticism about lack of specificity.
QANTAS prime example of unfair distribution of power. Corporations and government.
Nick: Direct action and Outreach also working for QANTAS employees rights.
Speaker Against: practicality of giving in to workers demands
Reply: pay rise coinciding with workers rights cuts justifies demands.
CONSENSUS
James: FIVE PROPOSALS RE FACILITATION
- Dissolve facilitation working group
- logistics arrange the megaphone
- vote on facilitators each meeting
- amendments to motions to assembly
- Education workshop to teach people facilitation
Nick: Clarifies there was an education workshop already which every one was invited to.
PROPOSAL to defer James’s five points until next meeting
CONSENSUS
Davey: Clarify as a personal view, believes these are very important proposals that should be given priority at next General Assembly even though there is not enough time today.
Next Speaker: Focus on unification, not division.
Lots of ideas
encourage working group participation
united by 99%
goals
conversation
peripheral issues aside
Davey: 7.48pm
PROPOSAL: at 8pm, discuss tonight’s camp.
CONSENSUS
Nick: Meeting 5pm Tuesday, Gopals, Facilitation meeting, everyone can join.
Next Speaker: faciliation caught in the process
we’re worried about the police
need to connect with people, get the message out
get a space (warm, relaxed) for better decision-making
poll who’s staying
money, tarps, pillows (resources for tonight)
Davey: Recap, Meeting space, Resources.
Arthur: Disorganisation inevitable
set up goals
drop current procedures
ARTHUR’S 3 PROPOSALS
- When polling the assembly, always phrase the address in the same format i.e. – “Those in favour raise hand” gather percentage.
- “Those against raise hand” gather percentage.
- At all times the moderator must be talking to the Assembly or the guest speaker (not to converse with the facilitation team)
- On procedural issues, 90 percentage consensus not necessary
Emily (Speaker Against first proposal): dislike form
modify language so we’re not sustaining current political format.
(Speaker For): Faster decision making
(Speaker Against): Straw polling good for when there is more than one option
Arthur: Clarifies that proposal 3 allows for straw polling on procedural issues.
Davey: Proposal 1: No consensus
All Arthur’s proposals deferred until next General Assembly.
Next Speaker: Republican, Aus Independents
Justice Barry, Ned Kelly, Eureka Stockade
Commonwealth govt. state laws used for political agenda.
Crown land (owned by people of Victoria)
Fed Square (owned by railways)
City Square ( owned by people)
Against permit system
Democracy knows no barrier
Thank you for listening.
Nick: 8pm
Who’s staying?
What support is in need
Understanding about other issues
PROPOSAL: to discuss tonight’s logistics only for the rest of the meeting
CONSENSUS
PROPOSAL: next meeting will be the one definitely happening on Wednesday, 6pm, State Library
COUNTERPROPOSAL: Next meeting 6pm Monday
Speaker (Against counterproposal): no affiliations
small groups
need a concept of quorum for accurate/safe representation
concerns of mistakes
Clarification (James): Affiliation Revolution, Socialist Party, support Palestine Campaign.
General Assembly for Monday 31/10/2011 limited only to logistical, campsite decisions.
Nick: deferral of all other issues
Davey: and to clarify the meeting for Monday 31/10/2011 would therefore not require facilitation.
PROPOSAL: Monday, 6pm, State Library, General Assembly. To only discuss issues of immediate safety/legality and immediate campsite logistics and therefore no facilitators required for the meeting.
CONSENSUS
Nick: Call to close Media and to contact Media and Legal.
I think if the General Assembly is going to adopt all these rules about “not speaking unless asked to speak” etc then it ought to adopt a few more such as “facilitator not to jump on people for stretching their legs” (this happened to me), “facilitator not to tell people where they should stand” (this also happened to me), “facilitators to provide for dissent by posting all comments on website” (something which is obviously not happening), if you want people to speak only when called upon then provide an opportunity for everyone who wants to speak to speak, don’t silence people or cut people off or tell them they can’t speak. Be open, honest, fair, reasonable, democratic, organic, real.